The Return...

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Well, hey, man. [00:00:01] Speaker B: Hey, bro. [00:00:02] Speaker A: Hey. In a minute. Cheers. [00:00:20] Speaker B: Jake. Oh, my goodness gracious. We're back. [00:00:26] Speaker A: We are back. We are so back. Welcome back to Sip and Mimo, the Internet's premier Mimos based podcast, wherein me, Jake and my partner Elliot Dissect Dive into 90s rock and electronica music. It's been a minute, Elliot. How have you been? [00:00:49] Speaker B: I've been hanging in there, man. Exhausted. Getting older. [00:00:55] Speaker A: You still have, you still have an amazing head of hair. It's not fair. [00:00:59] Speaker B: It's the bangs, but boy, the hairline. Like, I, I, I've seen like interviews with like Adam Scott and they're like, oh, your hair's so good. He's like, why? I started taking Propecia or whatever the hell when I was like 18. I'm like, oh, should I have done that? Because, like my, my hairline is, is always creeping back. My forehead is insane. I'm just slowly approaching xenomorph status with my hairline. It's not great. I heard Alien Earth is cool. Maybe they'll, maybe that'll be in style. But where the hell have you been, man? It's been like a year, you know. [00:01:33] Speaker A: It'S so, it's been, it's been a year. My wife and I welcomed our first, our first baby last fall. So, you know, I took some time off to, to spend with her and really, really get to know this amazing person. And it's just, it's been great. She's my favorite person that has ever walked this earth and she hasn't even walked yet, but it's been awesome. [00:02:04] Speaker B: Congratulations. [00:02:06] Speaker A: I've had her listen to our first four seasons. You know, she's, she's well versed. [00:02:13] Speaker B: Into Rob Zombie. [00:02:14] Speaker A: Way into Rob Zombie, actually. Some of the, some of the songs, a lot of the songs that we discussed have made her way to, have made their way to her, her playlist. So. Real big on that risotto, you know, fluke album. [00:02:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Kidding me. [00:02:33] Speaker A: And the other day we listened to Fluffy Clouds. [00:02:37] Speaker B: I think that would be good one. [00:02:38] Speaker A: Sure. Listen to Paul Van Dyke. It's just, you know, we put it on and we just listen while, while, you know, while, while we have play time and it's, it's great. She, she's the best. But I'm super excited to get back in the studio and, and relaunch the show that I know means as much to you as it does to me. [00:02:59] Speaker B: Here we are and here we go, as they say. As we say. [00:03:03] Speaker A: So. Yeah, so. So Ellie and I wanted to take this episode kind of like it, you know, to kind of act as a sort of like a reboot relaunch of Sip and Mimos. Just kind of like talk about things we've done and things we're looking forward to doing. Some format changes, different ideas we have. If you've discovered us because you're a fan of Mimosas, welcome. Hopefully you like music as well, but. Yeah, but Elliot. So what's been new? What, what's been on your mind? [00:03:36] Speaker B: Well, I've been reorganizing, rebuilding my music situation and trying to take into account my 4 year old. So I, I got a new turntable. It's very nice. It's, it's working for me. I got some new monitors and I got like some new shelves and all this. And I'm trying to go like very child safe meaning like no wires exposed anywhere. But the Bluetooth thing is kind of, it's a bit of a wash but like, but, but enough. So I've been slowly acquiring some old classics that like stuff that we've talked about on the show, even in my music collection. And that's been my, my little like window shopping obsession as of late. You know, beyond that, it's been working and taking care of my daughter and trying to have it all work. [00:04:44] Speaker A: You're a work and dad who work two jobs, loves his kid and never stops. [00:04:52] Speaker B: Throw my hat up into the air and turn the world on with my. [00:04:56] Speaker A: Frown Doing it always. So one of the things. So as a primarily a rock vinyl collector, rock and country, you know, I'm, I'm afforded like the, the great opportunity that a lot of record labels reissue these rock and country and you know, these pop albums. How is it on the electronica side of things? Are, are labels re releasing or doing anniversary presses of, of records that maybe you couldn't track down back in the day? What's that experience been like? [00:05:31] Speaker B: Well, in the dance world it's like very single driven, like 12 inch singles. Like you know, one song on one side, one or two on the other on the B side. So there's like, you know, pretty limited pressings and then when someone puts together an album, God bless them, they do that. And then if you like say want Orbitals insides, you have to drop $500 on Discogs unless a band that big starts reissuing things as Orbital is doing. And I've got a couple reissues of Orbital right now and they're going through their whole catalog right now and dropping these cool limited edition box sets of their older stuff. They're going chronologically like through their discography. And so I gotta like wait out until like the ones I really like come out and then try to jump on it. But as for like 12 inches and like singles that I like to collect, those are never repressed, like almost never. So there's, there's like a finite amount of these things and that impacts their price on, you know, the, the lovely website Discogs. Are you into reissues or do you want the OG pressing for your rock and stuff? [00:06:52] Speaker A: There are some albums that I know like an original pressing is just. Would be next to impossible to find. So in situations like that I am just happy to have the record in my collection. I'm just happy to have that physical media in my collection to, to throw on. And if it's a fun package or color, all the better. I do because I'm a completionist, I think, I think that's the right term. I, I gotta have, I gotta have them all, gotta collect, gotta catch them all. The collector me was like, oh, I really, really would love to find an original pressing, but, but overall I'm good with whatever. There are situations where I've, which I've come in, in, you know, come, come into recently where I've found really poor pressings of records and a lot of times from like the 80s and where I'm just like, oh, okay, where's this one pressed? And I got really into like reading like the, the, the etching. I'm just like, oh, okay, tear out. Oh, that wasn't a good year. This is not a good year. And put it back, you know. [00:08:15] Speaker B: Wow, look, it's a bottle of wine. [00:08:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Wow. But yeah, I think overall it's. To have it in the collection is, is a win. But if it's an original, pretty cool, you know, just. Especially if it's like a 50 year old record, the history that comes with it, like man, think of all the tables this has been on. Think of like, you know, all the hands. This is, this is past. I, I love that aspect too. [00:08:39] Speaker B: Interesting. Yeah. [00:08:41] Speaker A: What, what have you picked up lately? [00:08:44] Speaker B: That's a very good question. I Got Fat by Slims Going out of My Head ep. So on. This is going out of my head. Michael Jackson. And on the B side is Next to Nothing. [00:08:56] Speaker A: This is from his first the Better Living Through Chemistry. Right? [00:09:00] Speaker B: Correct. [00:09:01] Speaker A: Very good. [00:09:03] Speaker B: That's awesome. Michael Jackson. The song called Michael Jackson does this crazy panning thing where it plays one loop on the left, one loop on the right, then it comes back together. It's really glorious to listen to. I picked up Net Sky, Net Sky's first album, which is Go. He's a drum and bass artist. That is excellent. He has a song called Eyes Closed that became like an anthem of my last living situation, my last apartment complex. We used to party all the time. We would play this Net sky tune called Eyes Closed and it's just. It's just a drum bass tune that goes Eyes Closed. It's just really beautiful. So he's like. He's kind of like a melodic drum bass guy. You call it rollers in the genre or whatever. That's a real good one. So I picked that one up. [00:10:00] Speaker A: Nut Sky. [00:10:01] Speaker B: Nut sky, yeah. How about yourself? Have you. Have you picked up anything recently? [00:10:05] Speaker A: Yeah, so I. Over the last year, I really, really fell in. We've talked about them on the show, but Social Distortion, Mike Ness and the Boys, My favorite album by them is their. I think it's 2012, the hard times, Inertia Rhymes. It's got the Psalm, Machine Gun Blues, which is like about a depression era Bonnie and Clyde kind of story. I love it. I first heard it on 101X in. In Austin and I just thought, oh, this is the coolest song ever. And pretty much turned me into a life. Lifelong fan. I love that. And Zia Records, I think they're out of Arizona, did like a. A limited repressing of it on like gold nugget vinyl. And it actually, they announced it like literally like the day after my daughter was born. And I remember being in the hospital and being like, oh, awesome. But then like being like, no, wait. Okay, holidays are coming up. I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna wait. You know, I. I'm just gonna. [00:11:22] Speaker B: Your phone while your wife was in labor. You're like, this is. And you're like. And you saw the reissue. Like, this is the best thing that's ever happened to me. [00:11:28] Speaker A: Exactly. Babe, can you hold on really quick? I'm gonna. [00:11:33] Speaker B: I kind of had to add this to the pre order basket. [00:11:37] Speaker A: I gotta add this to my cart. But I didn't buy it. And we were listening to it on, you know, on Spotify today and I looked and it was still available. And I was like, you know what? I'm gonna. I'm gonna treat myself. So I bought that along with Johnny Cash, Johnny Cash Greatest, which is the second album he put out on Sun. So. Another previous artist. [00:12:01] Speaker B: Well, in the episode you said, like, you don't go into a record store without taking one. Johnny Cash album with you. Right. [00:12:08] Speaker A: This is true. You know, I. I think I. I should have, but I. I went through a period where I was trying to track down all of Johnny's Columbia albums. There's like 50 of them. 50 plus. Some of them haven't been repressed, but I have most of them. But for. That's because for a while there, I would go in and, oh, oh, they have Johnny. Okay. And I bought multiples. I went through a phase, but it's been great. So, like, you know, when we have dinner, you know, you know, we. I'll put on a record, you know, and, you know, the amp is. It's blue. And of course, like, there's lights on the turntable as well, and the spinning and the baby just, like, is mesmerized. So it's been really fun to let her see the record, especially when they're, like, fun colors. And so it's been. It's. It's kind of like, made me, like, reappreciate the format, for sure. [00:13:09] Speaker B: I get my daughter a vinyl record every year for her birthday, and they're. They're now framed in her room. But listeners don't think what you're thinking. I have special frames that release and allow the record to slide right out. Oh, so they're framed, but you can just push a button and like, pops right out. And she can slip it right out and put it on her turntable in her bedroom. Oh, I. I'm not. I'm not like a big, like, you know, frame this record and put on your wall guy, because, like, what are you doing? How do you listen to it? [00:13:47] Speaker A: So. [00:13:47] Speaker B: But I found these cool record frames because they're meant to be displayed for her and all that, because her gifts and all that. But, like. Yeah, so she has her own little collection and. And it is filed on my Discogs as her room. [00:14:03] Speaker A: Oh. [00:14:05] Speaker B: Yeah, on Discogs, like, looking through stuff. [00:14:09] Speaker A: Oh, I was on Discogs just today, just right. Literally this afternoon. I like to go through. And I'm a. I'm really. I'm a really big believer in the notes. Part of. Of discogs. I like putting where I got the record from. Scott. [00:14:33] Speaker B: Scott's for listeners. Discogs is a database of every. Seemingly every pressing of every music item ever. And you. You can find any individual release and also file away your collection into this database. And it's, It's, It's. It is quite a useful tool if you are into this sort of thing, like Jake and a lot. [00:15:00] Speaker A: Absolutely. And it has a, you know, it's in the main. This isn't, this isn't a plug for Discogs. We just use this app regularly. It's a great app. [00:15:08] Speaker B: Or sponsor us. Discogs have you. Rad. [00:15:12] Speaker A: You know, if. If Discogs wants to throw us, throw us some cash, we will do a Discogs segment. Absolutely. But no, I, I like going through and say, okay, end of an air Waterloo. And if I can attach like, like a memory to when I bought the album, like, bought the album after, after show at Stubbs. You know, it makes, it makes it fun because, like, sometimes I'll go, I'll be looking through and not just be like, huh, I don't, I don't, I don't remember what. I don't remember buying that. And I'll look on the apps and I'll be like, bought after seeing banned at Emos. It's like, oh, cool. You know, so, yeah, so it's. Yeah, I'm a big, big, big fan of Discogs. [00:16:01] Speaker B: So, Jake, you have a record room. Is that a dedicated record room or is it split up into different rooms? [00:16:07] Speaker A: So we have, we have the record room and then we have the, we have the record stand, which has quickly, due to spillover from the record room houses, you know, quite a number of records leaned up against it or, and in a case, underneath it. But the primary place you'll find the records is the Library of Alexandria, AKA the record room. [00:16:33] Speaker B: So forgive me, but like. Okay, so listeners, Jake was on the Mickey and Minutes podcast with her friend Nick, who was on the, on the show. And he. And forgive me, but, like, did you reveal this name of your collection before on this show? Because I didn't. I don't think I remember that. [00:16:50] Speaker A: You know, I'm, I'm, I'm. I tend to be full of it. So the name has changed. You know, it's over the years, but I'm, I'm sticking. Library of Alexandria, it's something I, I like the, I like the ring of it. [00:17:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:10] Speaker A: So that, that's the record collection's name. [00:17:13] Speaker B: Okay. I never thought to name mine, but I was like, wait, Jake's got a name. Well, I better have one too. [00:17:20] Speaker A: What would you name it? [00:17:21] Speaker B: I don't know. I was gonna ask you. I'm looking at it right now. I like, check out Jake's episode on Mickey and Minutes about Disney vinyl. It's very fun. [00:17:36] Speaker A: That was a lot of fun. Thank. Shout out. [00:17:37] Speaker B: Shout out. [00:17:38] Speaker A: Nikki, Mickey and Minutes. But yeah, the Library of Alexandria. It's awesome. It's a, It's A vinyl journey through. Through the last 18 years of my life. [00:17:56] Speaker B: Have you, like, gone on. Have you logged everything you have on Discogs? [00:18:00] Speaker A: I thought I have, but I pick one up, you know, off the shelf and put it on and looked and I was like, oh, this isn't in there. And it's a lot of, like, a lot of dollar bin finds that, you know, from, like, early in my collecting days that I would just like, oh, okay, you know, cool. You know, five records for, you know, four bucks and I would just put them and then just never. Never recorded them. So that's been. That's been fun to go back and. And find. Find those little treasures for sure. There's definitely been times where I bought duplicates because I didn't realize I had already had a copy. [00:18:43] Speaker B: Don't worry about it. [00:18:46] Speaker A: Do you. [00:18:47] Speaker B: Okay. Do you put your records in alphabetical order by artist? Do you split them up by genre? [00:18:57] Speaker A: So I'm pretty. I keep it pretty Dewey decimal, you know, I do. [00:19:04] Speaker B: Dewey decimal. I. I basically do have a card catalog. [00:19:12] Speaker A: I'd like to live. I'm a librarian, you know, I have. [00:19:14] Speaker B: A. Jake's a hot librarian. It's like, oh, you're looking for Tom Petty. Like, well, you look in the car catalog, because that's me. [00:19:24] Speaker A: I. So I. I'm pretty. Pretty. Not very exciting. I do like alphabetical album chronological. Even if it's a repress, I still place it where it would go if it was an original. [00:19:42] Speaker B: Alpha by first name or last. [00:19:44] Speaker A: Got to go last. [00:19:46] Speaker B: Really? Discog goes by first name. [00:19:49] Speaker A: Oh, I've never. I never realized that. What's your. Okay. And it also does. New numerical. Goes first. So, like. [00:19:57] Speaker B: Or. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, sure. [00:20:00] Speaker A: So, like, what's your first. What's the first record in your collection? And then what's your last one? [00:20:06] Speaker B: First record. And the alphabetized collection is Chick, Chick, Chick under the Moon. [00:20:13] Speaker A: Oh, I saw them at ACL one year. [00:20:15] Speaker B: Okay. Was it fun? [00:20:16] Speaker A: It was cool. It was raining and the singer, like, walked down to the crowd and took someone's umbrella and was, like, walking around singing with it. [00:20:23] Speaker B: Look at this cool ass cover. [00:20:25] Speaker A: That is cool. [00:20:26] Speaker B: Comic strip. Must be the moon. Yeah, this is pristine. All right. What would yours be? Yeah, because I put numericals before the A. Do you have dividers? I got. I got some dividers for the Alphabet and all that. And I don't know it. I hesitated because, like, I don't know if I need those, but they look good. [00:20:54] Speaker A: I've gone. I go back and forth. I Don't have any right now. I think what would look cool is. And. And a. A friend of mine has these on. On his collection, which is, in a lot of ways the inspiration for the Library of Alexandria. But he's got these, like. Like, lights that sit in. In each cubby. And so, like, it just adds, like. So such like a. Like a. Like a. Like a vibe to it. And. And admittedly, sometimes it gets. It does get hard to find certain records, especially those older ones that are kind of, like, flat. And, you know, the. The writing is kind of like turning. Either turning out or turning in. So I. I would like to add, like, some mood lighting eventually. [00:21:43] Speaker B: Not about mood lighting, damn it. [00:21:47] Speaker A: But my. So my. My first in my Collection is a 45 by the band called 10cc. It's called Things We Do For Love. And then after that is Tupac's Greatest Hits. And then the last album in my collection is ZZ Ward Put the Gun Down. That was a free record I got in college. And then before that is Tush by ZZ Top. What's your Z record? [00:22:20] Speaker B: Zombie Nation. If you've ever been to a football game overseas, you. You'll. You'll know this one. It's the dance tune with a chance. Oh, oh, oh, yeah. [00:22:40] Speaker A: Adding. Adding to my, like, songs. That's one of those songs that I've heard my entire life but never knew the name of it. [00:22:47] Speaker B: This is what I'm here for, babe. [00:22:48] Speaker A: Kind of like the children song. Yeah, Robert, that was huge. So. So how are you. So, you know, revamping the collection, adding a lot of, like, big fishes, you know, how are you. How are you organizing it? You doing a classic? [00:23:09] Speaker B: Everything is alpha by artist, first name, last name. To be determined. I need to sort that out. But I'm going back. I'm getting albums now, or trying to. Because in my early, you know, vinyl purchasing, it was all singles for DJing and stuff like that. And, like, while I listen to these albums, clearly all the albums we talked about on this, on this show, like, I often didn't have them fully on vinyl. I never have singles of the tracks that I liked. So now I'm going back and, like, trying to pick up where, you know, and fill in the gaps of all these albums. Just because 12 inches are louder. They're 45 RPMs. These. They sound better on a bigger system, I guess that's what they say. But, yeah, so I'm on. I'm on my own little voyage. [00:24:06] Speaker A: Do you think there'd be a market for, like, a Like a label to gather up, like up those singles. Kind of like homework or. It was. That's what homework was, right? Like, it was a bunch of 12 inches compiled to. Together. [00:24:23] Speaker B: It. It was much like many artists first debut as a collection of things they had put together over a decade. And some of them were pressed, but some of them were not. You know, some of them they just had, you know. [00:24:38] Speaker A: Do. Do you think there's a market for like. Like a label to like, compile like, you know, all those 12 inches onto like, not like a Greatest Hits, but like, you know, something. Volume one for sure? [00:24:57] Speaker B: Well, yeah, of course, you know, like, labels will have like, you know, an anniversary, like, box set, you know, which is enticing, but expensive. And then. Which brings me to my question. Where do you put your compilations, your various artists? Don't tell me you file them under V for various. That's ridiculous. [00:25:21] Speaker A: I totally do. [00:25:24] Speaker B: Jacob. [00:25:25] Speaker A: I know I lost. I lost points. [00:25:29] Speaker B: I. I've got a. I've got a special shelf just for various. [00:25:33] Speaker A: Just. [00:25:34] Speaker B: I have like 12 inches of like, you know, one artist in this side. One rest of that. I'm like, all right, you go into the very file. [00:25:38] Speaker A: But like, so that's different. That's. So I. I mainly have like. Like. Like what's. What's were the, like, compilations that I mainly got from like, my. My parents when I inherited their collection with like 70s, you know, popular songs. And it's not. Not one. Like if it was like one artist and just like the greatest hits, you know, easy. But these, they're. They're so. So varied. I'm like, oh, man. And I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna remember the name of, like the. Of. Of the compilation. I've tried, but I. I just like. What was this one called? Thank God it's Friday. Okay, so t. So I have him in my. The V's. I have him in my V. In the V section. [00:26:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay, that's. That's approaching John Cusack level sorting. [00:26:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Next thing, I'll do an autobiographical, you know. [00:26:44] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that. I gave this copy to someone else. How about. How about this? What's the record you've lost over the years that you. That. That you feel sick about, like, to a move or you sold it because you had to make ends meet. [00:27:05] Speaker A: So I. I've had. Back in the day, I had to sell two of my most beloved. It was a copy of Seeing the Sorrow by afi, first pressing. And then copy of Follow Boys, take this to your grave. Their first, I guess their second album and. But because I. I could not let it go over the years, I tracked them both down and bought them back. The. I've only lost one record and it's a. It's a Bootsy Collins record. Yeah, it's a. It's the only one I've ever lost. I went to. I went to grab it probably within the last year. I noticed it wasn't in there. And I was. I was like, that's. That's strange. I. I know it. I know I had that record, but it's the only one that slipped away. So. Yeah, I wish I can get that one back. [00:28:03] Speaker B: I've had a couple moves, like, in, like, shipping the collection is such a nightmare. And I lost like, the. From the move to Brooklyn to Austin, I lost like 80. [00:28:18] Speaker A: Oh, man. [00:28:19] Speaker B: And, like, it's one of those things where, like, they weren't properly, like, they weren't discogged, you know, So I. I don't know, they weren't like, filed away and boxed properly or anything like that. So, like, I've been like, hunting down and trying to remember which ones I lost. And I've got most of them, like. Oh, yeah, yeah, that one. Like, some of them, like, including a very expensive box set that I got. I remember I got is Paul Van DJK box set album in Miami. When I was in Miami for like the Winter Music Conference. And like, you know, at the time it was like, pretty big buy. Was like $40. That's a bit expensive. It is now, like, 600. You can't even get. You can't even get this thing anymore. And I'm like, so that's. That was brutal. That's a brutal loss. And I'm still, you know, it's like, you know, like a white whale for me. [00:29:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:20] Speaker B: So to get that one back, I feel more complete as a person. [00:29:24] Speaker A: Oh, man. [00:29:26] Speaker B: Do you put your stuff in sleeves? You put them in plastic sleeves? [00:29:29] Speaker A: Yeah, let's put them in sleeves. Some. Some of my box. Box sets are too big for sleeves. [00:29:35] Speaker B: Yes. You need to make bigger sleeves for larger endeavors. So they. [00:29:41] Speaker A: They have, like, box set sleeves, but there's some, like, I just picked up a Tom Petty box that is too big even for the box set sleeve, so. So that's the only thing. And I just. I hate. I hate knowing they're just sitting, you know, on the shelf, like, just by themselves, you know, the elements. Did you. Did you ever remember, did you. Did you see Spinal Tap? [00:30:07] Speaker B: Of course, yeah. [00:30:09] Speaker A: When he's like, oh, that that part two coming out next month. Oh, so excited. [00:30:13] Speaker B: So next month? [00:30:15] Speaker A: I think it's next month. Yeah. [00:30:17] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:30:18] Speaker A: Which. So my letterbox top four is. [00:30:23] Speaker B: Mine is just War of the Worlds with Ice Cube. Where the world Is Ice Cube. Where the world. [00:30:32] Speaker A: So wait, what are your letterbox top fours? [00:30:36] Speaker B: I looked at, I looked at yours today because I was excited to talk to you about letterbox. I don't have. I don't have a letterboxd 4. I don't know how to line that up. [00:30:46] Speaker A: Okay. Because I would say, like, that would be something that would be ingrained in my head and I would remember. [00:30:51] Speaker B: I know. Yours is like Beetlejuice. Is it what? [00:30:54] Speaker A: Three Amigos or Beetlejuice Three Amigos, Terminator and the Shining. [00:31:02] Speaker B: That's a pretty wild list. And I appreciate it. Mine would be like. Because, like, I guess the question is, like, what? What's my comedy? I love Three Amigos. Like, I was raised on that. Like, that's like my sense of humor and all that. Like, I get it. I don't even know. Shining would be there. There will Be Blood will probably be up there. Do I have to put a superhero movie in there? Like, I don't want to put End Game in my top four of all time. You know what I mean? [00:31:41] Speaker A: We were. [00:31:42] Speaker B: It's like Starbucks is my favorite coffee. Like, no. You know what I mean? [00:31:47] Speaker A: I. I'm surprised you wouldn't have like, like a Tim Burton Batman or a Raimi. Spider man. [00:31:55] Speaker B: Spider Man 2. Possibly. My, my four year old loves watching the Toby McGuire Spider man movies because she likes Mary Jane. It's working. And like, so, like, we'll play Mary Jane and Spider Man. And she's like, daddy, take a picture of me. And she goes. And she goes. And then a spider. [00:32:21] Speaker A: No way. [00:32:22] Speaker B: And then a spider comes down and bites your finger. I'm like, oh, okay. Got it, got it, got it. She. And she goes like. And she, you know, she. She does this like. [00:32:31] Speaker A: And you're like, yeah, that's perfect. That's perfect. [00:32:33] Speaker B: Like, she go like, she goes, don't make me look ugly. I go, that's impossible. It was the lines from the movie. And then I go, oh. And she walks away. I'm like, and now you're Spider man and you have a nightmare. I'm like, girl. And then she's like, I'm like, can I tell you something? They made more of these. She's like, oh, cool. And then I'm like, there's. There's actually three of them with this boy and the marriage in it. You're like, part two is the best. And she goes, no, I like three with the goop monster. I'm like, part three is not considered the best. Spider Man 2 is actually one of the best comic book movies of all time. And then we will. I'll put it on. And as soon as Doc Ock gets the arms, she goes, nope, no, thank you. Not at all. I'm like, is that too scary? She goes, yeah, it's so scary. The tentacles with the metal. I'm like, okay. Click. I turn it off. And she's like, let's see that. The goop monster with the teeth. I like that one. Like, so she's way into Venom. [00:33:47] Speaker A: Oh, Venom. Oh, I. For. I forget. Venom is in that throw. I was like, I thought she was talking about Sandman. [00:33:53] Speaker B: She loves, like, when Spider man becomes a bad guy and dances. Oh, yeah. And then she loves that, like, the goop monster is the bad guy. She's like, that is cool because kids like slime and goof. But I'm like, no, but, but seriously, Alfred Molina is like, next level good. And this. She's like, no, well, we. [00:34:15] Speaker A: We've talked about that. How that. That scene is like a straight up, like two minutes of like a horror movie scene. [00:34:20] Speaker B: Oh, the. When they tried to take the tentacles off. Yeah, yeah. Was that Sam Raimi doing his Raimi thing? [00:34:27] Speaker A: But he's like, hope everyone took shop. [00:34:30] Speaker B: Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, you hear the. Hear the. [00:34:37] Speaker A: Oh, man, I might have to watch that tonight. [00:34:40] Speaker B: Dude, you should. Oh. So moving on with the podcast, I was thinking we should just like, do movie commentaries, but I don't think either of us, as fathers have three hours as a block necessarily ever. Like, I'm like, I can't believe I'm getting away with this right now. This is pretty wild. But, but, but, Jake, Spider man movies aside, and our record collections aside, do you have good shelves? Do you have IKEA stuff or what? What do you. What are you rocking with your. With your record unit, your shelving? [00:35:20] Speaker A: So you know, the iconic calax. I think it's. I think that's how it's pronounced from. From ikea. I mean, you can't go wrong with it. And then I like you like, you do. I spilled. Spilled over. And so I just bought a. Just bought a turntable table. It's just like basically like a little two tier table that I've actually been putting stickers of record labels that I've collected over the years on kind of like really Neat, like, you know, like app 1234. Go for San Francisco Waxwork from New Orleans, one of my favorites. And it's just, you know, it's just neat to. To see those stickers. And it just kind of gives it a little bit. Gives the whole thing a little bit more character. And I invested in a. A Bluetooth turntable for. For the music room. And I've. So far, I've had a pretty good experience with it. Didn't want a lot of. Kind of like. You didn't want to like a lot of, like, chords, you know, around. It's already kind of like. [00:36:30] Speaker B: Well, you're gonna be mindful of that as a. It's true. Truly. Like a. Like, it's very dangerous. [00:36:38] Speaker A: Yeah. So. And I've been having a cool experience with that. I'll put. Put a record on, like, while I'm. While I'm working or, you know, or reading or something. And so it's been. It's been neat, but I've filled up that one too. So it's back to the drawing board. But yeah. Big fan of Cal. How about you? You. What's your situation? [00:37:03] Speaker B: Well, in my new place. Well, that's new. I've been here for almost a year now. I had shelves installed because. I know. And he was. He was really cool about it. He just like, just took him. Took him, you know, an evening. And he. Because I. There was like a. What do you call it? Like a little alcove kind of cubby shelf situation. But they were, you know, like these really bad, like, aluminum things. I'm like, that's not gonna hold. Like, this would be the perfect place to put it, but that's not gonna hold what I'm packing. So he. I hired this guy to put in these. These actual shells, and he's like, you could park your car in these. [00:37:49] Speaker A: I guarantee it. [00:37:51] Speaker B: The. That's kind of looking what I'm looking for. And then. So that's that. And then I got right now the. The Audio Technica right here. And then. And then furthermore, I've got the IKEA under the tv. But then beyond. [00:38:09] Speaker A: There's always a beyond. [00:38:10] Speaker B: I've got the display set with the new recruits and. And all that, so that the display. [00:38:18] Speaker A: That'S kind of like. That's kind of like what I added to. To the music room. I love it. It's just like, I needed it. But. But. Yeah, but on the subject of vinyl, we. Ellie and I had been bouncing around like, new, you know, new segments and ideas. We want to bring to Sip and Nemos and being too lifelong to lifers vinyl collectors, we wanted to incorporate our love of vinyl into our show somehow. So let's talk, let's talk format. So you know, in the past seasons one through five, you know, we spent, we spent our episodes picking records from art from two different artists. One rock, one electronica. You know, as we, as we head into the future of Sip and Mimos, we decided we're going to start dedicating an episode to one album a piece. It'll alternate electronica and then next week it'll be rock and roll or country or hip hop based, something along those lines. But to keep the spirit of Sip and Mimos, to keep that collaborative spirit of Sip and Mimos alive, we're going to do what's called what's your B side? So whomever has whoever did not bring the album or the centerpiece for that week, that that person will bring a song or an artist that they feel would complement the subject of that episode. Elliot, what are you thinking about that? [00:40:07] Speaker B: I think it's fantastic. Let's just, let's dedicate each episode to one album so people don't have to wait through theirs, you know, or whatever. And it might keep, keep us a little more concise and under, under, you know, range. So like we don't have a three hour episode where we talk about Weezer and then, you know, Blue Man Group or some nonsense. I think it's a fine idea and I'm all for it. So. So we'll just rotate. Yeah. Every other week or yeah, I should say will be because, because who knows, we're dads, our schedule is macaroonies. You'll get what you get. [00:40:47] Speaker A: Absolutely. And then. [00:40:48] Speaker B: Yeah, so go. Sorry, go ahead. [00:40:50] Speaker A: No, and then on top of that, you know, in keeping with like the vinyl theme, you know, at the end of each episode or you know, in the past we said, you know, would you buy the vinyl? So definitely I'm gonna keep that because I, I, I, I like hearing Elliot's thoughts on if he would pick up a rock record for sure. But want to do like a reoccurring segment called I bought the vinyl where we would talk about a recent, you know, vinyl purchase or honestly just like any purchase from like an independent record store because those places are important and you know, I know we're both big believers in supporting them. So. Yeah, so looking forward to that because the other note. What's that? [00:41:40] Speaker B: Any acquisition of note, like any cool, cool item that we have. Any lovely object that has Been added. [00:41:48] Speaker A: To our collection, so. Really looking forward to that. I mean, the other night I got in a record from Waxwork. I just mentioned them. They're from New Orleans. They do amazing horror soundtracks. They did the Righteous Gemstones soundtrack that just came out on hbo. Just finished up on hbo, I should say. And I basically did, like, an unboxing live video for. For my wife. It was. It was amazing. So, yeah, so I'm looking forward to. To sharing those things with Elliot and you, of course, our listener. Absolutely. But, yeah, I. And then, you know, as time goes on, I know we're going to think of a lot of other fun things to add to the show. And that's one of the things I love most about Sip. Mimos is, you know, you know, the. I guess the spontaneity. You know, the. Hey, let's. Let's. This episode. Let's talk about the Prodigy. This. This dark masterpiece by the Prodigy and a Sugar Ray album, you know, not really boxing ourselves in anywhere. And so I. I'm just looking forward to. To the future for Ship and Mimos, so. [00:43:07] Speaker B: Absolutely. Man, do we need a new. For our new. Our. Our healthy relaunch. Do we need a new crush? We've been on the Devin Sawa thing for, I think, two years now, and I don't think he's noticed, you know. [00:43:25] Speaker A: Who'S having a moment, and rightfully so. [00:43:28] Speaker B: It's having a moment. RFK junior. [00:43:31] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Oh, no. [00:43:37] Speaker B: Is. [00:43:38] Speaker A: Is Alicia Silverstone. Is she. [00:43:40] Speaker B: She. [00:43:40] Speaker A: Okay? [00:43:42] Speaker B: I. I don't know. I haven't, like. [00:43:44] Speaker A: I haven't heard. Like, she's like a. Not like a non Baxter or anything. Is she, like, at all? [00:43:49] Speaker B: Oh, Jesus, I don't even know how to Google that anymore. People, political beliefs in a lot. Like, I thought Sydney Sweeney was all right, but then, I don't know. Oh, yeah, the jeans thing, which is so stupid. Guys, it's a distraction. They're militarizing the police. We're all in so much trouble. Okay, but maybe. I don't know. [00:44:15] Speaker A: I was gonna say her or like Jennifer Love Hewitt, because she. [00:44:18] Speaker B: I was just. I was just thinking, what about good old Jennifer Love Hewitt? Like, we haven't done her yet. Even when we talked about. [00:44:27] Speaker A: Currently. Wait. [00:44:28] Speaker B: Can hardly wait. Damn, I love that movie. That was. I know we could do. Love you, Jennifer. [00:44:36] Speaker A: Love you, J. Hugh. Okay. Yeah. Because I just. I. I don't want to be like. Yeah. This person then like someone. Listen. Be like these. You know, you just never know these days. [00:44:48] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like oh, really? That's your new crush? Like, did you know that they voted for. [00:44:54] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:44:55] Speaker B: No, Palestine. [00:44:57] Speaker A: Like. [00:44:57] Speaker B: Oh, God. [00:44:58] Speaker A: I know. [00:44:59] Speaker B: Maybe we. Well, we could just abstain. Be celibate for a year of. Until all this blows over and you get right back to business. This. All this is just a phase. Everything's gonna be fine. We're at war. Pick us up. I don't know. Maybe we'll just do some research. [00:45:30] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll. [00:45:30] Speaker B: We'll just off camera, off record, and see if we can find someone who's a new crush. Yeah. [00:45:40] Speaker A: Because we had Ethan. Ethan. Embryo was. [00:45:44] Speaker B: Ethan was one, wasn't he? [00:45:46] Speaker A: One. [00:45:47] Speaker B: No, we had. [00:45:48] Speaker A: Well, of course we had Neve Campbell. [00:45:51] Speaker B: Nev Campbell. We had. [00:45:55] Speaker A: Devin Sawa. [00:45:56] Speaker B: Oh. [00:45:56] Speaker A: Oh, Adam Driver. [00:45:57] Speaker B: Adam Driver. Oh, my God. [00:46:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so. [00:46:01] Speaker B: All right, well, we'll. [00:46:02] Speaker A: We'll just. [00:46:03] Speaker B: We'll just think. We'll think on it. What you do on it next time we meet up. What are we gonna talk about? [00:46:12] Speaker A: Do you want to do. Do you want to lead it off with an electronic album? [00:46:16] Speaker B: I think you should lead it off. Do you have something in mind? Okay. I always. I love doing the. That's why the B side thing comes in handy, like, because that'll. That'll launch me. Because every time you go first and, like, throw something down, I'm like, oh, yeah. And I. I think so. The B side thing is great. And then it'll launch me for the next episode. [00:46:37] Speaker A: Perfect. Okay. Okay. Okay, I got one. All right. So this past summer. So recording this mid August, this past summer, had the opportunity during. You know, on this past summer, uh, I happened to listen to two audiobooks on one of my favorite artists. And, um, one that I was thinking, how have we never talked about him on this show before? So while we're not that. While we're no longer sticking to the 90s format of things, we're kind of branching out. This one is certainly a 90s album. This one is by an artist who hails from Florida, and his name is Tom Petty. [00:47:33] Speaker B: All right. I had a feeling. I had a feeling. [00:47:38] Speaker A: And the album I'm bringing to the. [00:47:41] Speaker B: Table is Greatest Hits, Part 3. [00:47:45] Speaker A: Various artists. No, the album we're going to be dedicating our next episode to is 1994's Wildflowers. This one came out 31 years ago this November. It's often viewed as Tom Petty's masterpiece, and it was produced by Rick Rubin. See our previous episode on Johnny Cash's American One for more Rick Rubin songs. On this one, I Think we should look out for Check out Wildflower or is the title track. You don't know how it feels. Time to Move on. It's Good to Be King. Pretty much all of them, honestly. Yeah, this one, this one's pretty fire. I'm really, really excited to talk about. It's a very, very good album. [00:48:43] Speaker B: 94. Is that. Is that mid career Tom Petty? [00:48:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I would say mid, because. [00:48:50] Speaker B: When did we lose them? [00:48:52] Speaker A: 2017. [00:48:53] Speaker B: What a loss. Damn. [00:48:57] Speaker A: Okay. [00:48:57] Speaker B: Love that. I'm a big old Tom Petty fan. I've actually said maybe I should save it for the app. But, like. Okay, well, it, like, can you. What, what can you name your favorite, like, all time American band? [00:49:13] Speaker A: Man, this is great. This is a great question. [00:49:16] Speaker B: This argument with my stepdad a lot because, like, everyone's like, oh, oh, Beatles v. Rolling Stones v. Floyd or whatever. Okay, no, no. Okay, move that aside. Favorite American band. [00:49:31] Speaker A: I was actually talking to my father in law about this. [00:49:33] Speaker B: No kidding? [00:49:35] Speaker A: Yeah. I would say Ramones. [00:49:41] Speaker B: Are they American? Oh, they're all. [00:49:44] Speaker A: They're all from Queens. [00:49:47] Speaker B: How about that? [00:49:48] Speaker A: Tell me about Queens. [00:49:51] Speaker B: Spider Man's from there, I think. I cruised through there a couple times. [00:49:56] Speaker A: Tell me about the Bowery, the power. [00:49:59] Speaker B: Yeah, all right. Oh, there. I think we have a lost episode of LCD vs Strokes that I'll try to cut the. The review of and put that out. Speaking of New York stuff. [00:50:15] Speaker A: So. So if you're just catching episode, Ellie and I have this ongoing thing where I'll ask him about New York because having only driven through New York once as. As a. As a young child, it seems like a different planet to me. And Elliot always says, you know, I don't like to. You know, there I go talking about New York. But for me, being. Being friends with someone who lived there, I find it fascinating. So I'm constantly telling him, no, no, you're not. You're not. You're not being. Anyway, I'm. This is very interesting to me. I want to know what it's like. So that's backstory there. [00:50:55] Speaker B: That's the backstory. It's that Elliot used to live in New York. Very, very cool that he did that. It's very cool that it comes up in conversation so organically all the time and people give me about it non stop. [00:51:15] Speaker A: Have I ever give. Have I ever been one of those people? [00:51:17] Speaker B: Oh, Jake, Jacob, you're a. You're a lovely, lovely. You're. Bless your heart. You're the best. [00:51:25] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:51:26] Speaker B: You've never teased me about living in New York. [00:51:29] Speaker A: So who would your American band be? [00:51:31] Speaker B: Well, I was gonna say Heartbreakers, perhaps. [00:51:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Top five. [00:51:38] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I would say, if we're gonna go top five bands. [00:51:41] Speaker B: And controversially, like, a lot of people, like, because there's a lot of hate. The Doors, like. Like, you. You have to acknowledge a little bit. How do you. Which side do you fall on with the Doors? [00:51:54] Speaker A: I think the Doors are cool. I think the Doors are kind of like the. The precursor to punk rock. [00:52:01] Speaker B: Interesting. [00:52:03] Speaker A: You know, poetry of it. Poetry. Honestly, just the attitude. You know, Jim Morrison was. Attitude in leather pants. You know. [00:52:15] Speaker B: I didn't know that they were so divisive. Like. [00:52:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:21] Speaker B: Oh, wait. Oh. People, like, either hate them or, like, are way into. I'm like, can you just, like, kind of be okay with that? I don't understand. [00:52:30] Speaker A: Yeah, he did one of those. So, like the. So from what I understand, I read this in legs. Legs McNeil's oral history on Punk Rock. It's one of my favorite books, probably top five favorite books. It's called Please Kill Me. It's the oral history of punk rock. He traces punk to the Vela underground in New York. And the Doors. And the Doors played a show in Michigan that was attended by members of MC5 and Iggy and the Stooges. So they. He. You know, people are saying, like, oh, yeah, we saw the Doors and went and started. We went and started bands, you know, because we saw Jim Morrison and just had to do that. And so Iggy Pop, godfather of punk rock, played it plays in New York, inspires the New York Dolls. They inspire the Ramones. So I. I could see it. So before going a. Top five American bands, probably. No, no particular. I would say, like Beach Boys. [00:53:33] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, of course, yeah. [00:53:35] Speaker A: Beach Boys, Tom Petty, Heartbreakers. I. I want to say, like the Jimi Hendrix Experience, but they were British, you know, Mitch Mitchell and the other guy. I can't. Can't think of his name. [00:53:54] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. That's why, like, Heartbreakers is a little wishy washy, because, like. Well, all right, but is it Tom Petty and. I don't know. [00:54:03] Speaker A: So I certainly. I put them in the bands. Beach Boys, Tom Petty, Ramones, Bruce Springsteen, E Street Band. [00:54:14] Speaker B: There you go. [00:54:14] Speaker A: All right, that's four. And then Johnny Cash in the Tennessee Three. [00:54:22] Speaker B: Damn. All right, that's a. [00:54:24] Speaker A: Those are. [00:54:25] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. You don't even know what just happened. Hey. Just broke it down and I thought I was asking, like, a pretty interesting question, but he's kind of figured it out. [00:54:39] Speaker A: And then after that Then you get Green Day. Honestly, you freaking get Social Distortion. I love it. But yeah, those, those would be like my five, I think that were like. When I think of like game changing bands. Yeah. That might change when we get to the Tom Betty episode, but we'll circle back. [00:55:02] Speaker B: Oh, should I. Is there any beyond the album? Is there? I mean, I'm a. I'll tell you right now, I'm a big Tom Petty fan. I. I like. Come on. [00:55:10] Speaker A: What are you talking about? [00:55:11] Speaker B: But any. You can send me stuff, of course. But like for the listeners. Any adjacent listens that we should check out while preparing for our talk on it. [00:55:26] Speaker A: There's some cool bsides. So they, they, they released it's Wildflowers and all the rest for like the 30th anniversary. They released that a couple years ago, I guess last year. No. Yeah, last year. Some really cool stuff on there. Honestly. There's a. There's a documentary, I think it's on prime about the making of this album that's really, really fantastic. It's a cool watch. It's called something more than what Somewhere you feel free. I'll send you a link if you. I will check it on. Put it on the background. Total worth. Totally worth it. It's. It's a heavy album. It's an album of Tom Petty coming to grips with falling out of love and divorcing his wife of like 20 years and falling in love with someone new. Yeah, it's. Man, it's. It's heavy. And I'm really, really excited. And I'm also. I'm really excited to see what you're gonna pair. What you're gonna. What. What your B side is gonna be. [00:56:32] Speaker B: My B side is. Well, I don't know. I'm gonna wait and listen to the album and I will then say, you know what would be good with this? Like. Like a sommelier. [00:56:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:44] Speaker B: You're having the salmon. This would be really good. 90 something early aughts. [00:56:53] Speaker A: It feels great to be back. [00:56:55] Speaker B: It's so good to be back. [00:56:58] Speaker A: Elliot. I'm. Thanks for. Thanks for getting back on the Mimos Mimos train with me. I'm looking forward to laying down some. Some heat. [00:57:08] Speaker B: Some heat. I'm very excited. How are you feeling? [00:57:13] Speaker A: I'm feeling great. [00:57:15] Speaker B: You feel back? [00:57:16] Speaker A: I feel back. I feel loose, you know, I feel. I feel ready. [00:57:23] Speaker B: All right. Hey. Well. [00:57:25] Speaker A: Well, hey. Until. Until next time. One thing that's not changing is we're gonna stay sipping and. [00:57:32] Speaker B: Yeah, stay sipping. [00:57:34] Speaker A: Stay sipping. Thanks for finding us. Thanks for staying with us. Thanks for coming back, and we look forward to talking to you all again. [00:57:41] Speaker B: See you all real soon.